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		<title>Comment on HOW-TO: Cluster Shared Volumes, Equallogic &amp; Hyper-V by martius</title>
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		<dc:creator>martius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 18:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the replies! This is great to finaly hear something around the persistent reservation mystery! I will now try to figure out a table that can be used with different combinations that will reflect the use of NIC, EQL etc etc. Thanks again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the replies! This is great to finaly hear something around the persistent reservation mystery! I will now try to figure out a table that can be used with different combinations that will reflect the use of NIC, EQL etc etc. Thanks again!</p>
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		<title>Comment on HOW-TO: Cluster Shared Volumes, Equallogic &amp; Hyper-V by Darren</title>
		<link>http://www.martius.nl/?p=1957&#038;cpage=1#comment-2256</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 14:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The equation you posed has the result in connections per volume where in fact that should be connections per member. That said in this case the equation should look as follows:

CV / E = CM connections per member. 

To clarify, the DSM makes session connections based on the number of members the volume is spread across times the # of NICs but we cap the session limit at 6.

E * N = CV per node OR

3 * 2 = 6 connections per node * 16 nodes = 96 connections

In this case each NIC would have 3 connections to the volume, one to each member. 

In a two member pool the equation would look as follows: 

2 * 2 = 4 connections per node yielding 2 connections per NIC to the volume.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The equation you posed has the result in connections per volume where in fact that should be connections per member. That said in this case the equation should look as follows:</p>
<p>CV / E = CM connections per member. </p>
<p>To clarify, the DSM makes session connections based on the number of members the volume is spread across times the # of NICs but we cap the session limit at 6.</p>
<p>E * N = CV per node OR</p>
<p>3 * 2 = 6 connections per node * 16 nodes = 96 connections</p>
<p>In this case each NIC would have 3 connections to the volume, one to each member. </p>
<p>In a two member pool the equation would look as follows: </p>
<p>2 * 2 = 4 connections per node yielding 2 connections per NIC to the volume.</p>
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		<title>Comment on HOW-TO: Cluster Shared Volumes, Equallogic &amp; Hyper-V by martius</title>
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		<dc:creator>martius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 16:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your reply. I updated the picture.

The reason I chose 1 MPIO connection in my equation is the fact that I want redundancy on the network card level above MPIO. 

PR. Persistent reservation per volume: 96
E. Volume is spread over members: 3
N. NIC&#039;s per Hyper-V node: 2
S. Hyper-V Nodes: 16
CN. Connections per volume

PR / S = connections per node

96 / 16 = 6 connections per volume

CV / E = 

6 / 3 = 2 connections per volume per node (MPIO)

Every node has 2 NIC&#039;s so this means 1 connection per NIC.

If you take the default for the MPIO settings which is 2 then you will end up with 192 PR&#039;s per volume. The 3 in my equastion is the spread over the members.


3 * N * M * S = ???

3 * 2 * 2 * 16 = 192

This would mean the CSV would fail. Or am I wrong. Please clarify how the PR&#039;s are calculated in relation to number of NIC&#039;s and MPIO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your reply. I updated the picture.</p>
<p>The reason I chose 1 MPIO connection in my equation is the fact that I want redundancy on the network card level above MPIO. </p>
<p>PR. Persistent reservation per volume: 96<br />
E. Volume is spread over members: 3<br />
N. NIC&#8217;s per Hyper-V node: 2<br />
S. Hyper-V Nodes: 16<br />
CN. Connections per volume</p>
<p>PR / S = connections per node</p>
<p>96 / 16 = 6 connections per volume</p>
<p>CV / E = </p>
<p>6 / 3 = 2 connections per volume per node (MPIO)</p>
<p>Every node has 2 NIC&#8217;s so this means 1 connection per NIC.</p>
<p>If you take the default for the MPIO settings which is 2 then you will end up with 192 PR&#8217;s per volume. The 3 in my equastion is the spread over the members.</p>
<p>3 * N * M * S = ???</p>
<p>3 * 2 * 2 * 16 = 192</p>
<p>This would mean the CSV would fail. Or am I wrong. Please clarify how the PR&#8217;s are calculated in relation to number of NIC&#8217;s and MPIO.</p>
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		<title>Comment on HOW-TO: Cluster Shared Volumes, Equallogic &amp; Hyper-V by Jeff Sullivan</title>
		<link>http://www.martius.nl/?p=1957&#038;cpage=1#comment-2254</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Sullivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 16:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey @Martius -- Thanks for your blog.  I forwarded your post  onto one of our Hyper-V experts here at Dell and this was his thoughts:

First a slight correction, the max members per Group is 16 (8 per Pool). Now to the meat of the topic… There is some confusion on how the EQL DSM works. You’re equation is not entirely correct. You came about the maximum number of connections correctly but we make our session connection differently then what you’ve described here. The DSM defaults to 2 connections per member, 6 connections per volume and Least Queue Depth policy. This results in your 96 connections (with 5.x FW) per volume. The DSM sits on top of the Windows MPIO driver stack. We’ve just added more intelligence so that we know where the actual data is hosted and on which array hosts it. 

The architecture of the DSM work as follows: we distribute the sessions over the NICs so each NIC would have a connection to each member hosting the volume. This allows us to quickly access data through any session depending on the array that hosts the data at the time of the request. This process is much more efficient then using the standard Windows MPIO driver. 

For example if you’re using the standard Windows driver you first have to manually make each NIC session connection to the volume through the initiator, the DSM does this for you automatically. Next if your data request is accessing data across path 1 and that path is connected to array 2 then the data path goes through the switch – to array 1 – back through the switch to array 2 -  retrieves the data then routes back through array 1 – to the host. Where the DSM will auto recognize that the data is located on array 2 and issue an iSCSI redirect through the appropriate session to connect directly to array 2 to retrieve the data. 

It’s always a good idea to use MPIO where possible for performance and redundancy but you see the intelligence of the EQL DSM also adds efficiency and added performance benefits over the standard Windows MPIO driver.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey @Martius &#8212; Thanks for your blog.  I forwarded your post  onto one of our Hyper-V experts here at Dell and this was his thoughts:</p>
<p>First a slight correction, the max members per Group is 16 (8 per Pool). Now to the meat of the topic… There is some confusion on how the EQL DSM works. You’re equation is not entirely correct. You came about the maximum number of connections correctly but we make our session connection differently then what you’ve described here. The DSM defaults to 2 connections per member, 6 connections per volume and Least Queue Depth policy. This results in your 96 connections (with 5.x FW) per volume. The DSM sits on top of the Windows MPIO driver stack. We’ve just added more intelligence so that we know where the actual data is hosted and on which array hosts it. </p>
<p>The architecture of the DSM work as follows: we distribute the sessions over the NICs so each NIC would have a connection to each member hosting the volume. This allows us to quickly access data through any session depending on the array that hosts the data at the time of the request. This process is much more efficient then using the standard Windows MPIO driver. </p>
<p>For example if you’re using the standard Windows driver you first have to manually make each NIC session connection to the volume through the initiator, the DSM does this for you automatically. Next if your data request is accessing data across path 1 and that path is connected to array 2 then the data path goes through the switch – to array 1 – back through the switch to array 2 &#8211;  retrieves the data then routes back through array 1 – to the host. Where the DSM will auto recognize that the data is located on array 2 and issue an iSCSI redirect through the appropriate session to connect directly to array 2 to retrieve the data. </p>
<p>It’s always a good idea to use MPIO where possible for performance and redundancy but you see the intelligence of the EQL DSM also adds efficiency and added performance benefits over the standard Windows MPIO driver.</p>
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		<title>Comment on HOW-TO: Cluster Shared Volumes, Equallogic &amp; Hyper-V by @martius &#187; HOW-TO: #Microsoft #Windows #2008 #R2 #CSV and #Equallogic #SAN</title>
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		<dc:creator>@martius &#187; HOW-TO: #Microsoft #Windows #2008 #R2 #CSV and #Equallogic #SAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 11:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] initial calculation might be wrong! Please read this &gt;&gt;&gt; http://www.martius.nl/?p=1957    Categories: HOW-TO, categorie loos, nerden Tags: Cluster Shared Volumes, csv, Equallogic, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] initial calculation might be wrong! Please read this &gt;&gt;&gt; http://www.martius.nl/?p=1957    Categories: HOW-TO, categorie loos, nerden Tags: Cluster Shared Volumes, csv, Equallogic, [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on HOW-TO: #Microsoft #Windows #2008 #R2 #CSV and #Equallogic #SAN by @martius &#187; Cluster Shared Volumes, Equallogic &#38; Hyper-V</title>
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		<dc:creator>@martius &#187; Cluster Shared Volumes, Equallogic &#38; Hyper-V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 11:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (http://www.delltechcenter.com/thread/4007957/Microsoft+Windows+2008+R2+CSV+and+Equallogic+SAN/ or http://www.martius.nl/?p=1896) on how to calculate the persistent reservations in wrong. This is because of the spread over max 3 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] (<a href="http://www.delltechcenter.com/thread/4007957/Microsoft+Windows+2008+R2+CSV+and+Equallogic+SAN/" rel="nofollow">http://www.delltechcenter.com/thread/4007957/Microsoft+Windows+2008+R2+CSV+and+Equallogic+SAN/</a> or <a href="http://www.martius.nl/?p=1896)" rel="nofollow">http://www.martius.nl/?p=1896)</a> on how to calculate the persistent reservations in wrong. This is because of the spread over max 3 [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on HOW-TO: Equallogic 7.4.3 CHAP user mpio Authentication failed by Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.martius.nl/?p=941&#038;cpage=1#comment-2194</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 18:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Asked EQ tech support, and here was the fix for us. Go into the group config tab, iSCSI tab, iSCSI Initiator Configuration, enable the check box for &quot;Consult locally defined CHAP accounts first&quot; and that immediately fixed the problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Asked EQ tech support, and here was the fix for us. Go into the group config tab, iSCSI tab, iSCSI Initiator Configuration, enable the check box for &#8220;Consult locally defined CHAP accounts first&#8221; and that immediately fixed the problem.</p>
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		<title>Comment on HOW-TO: Equallogic 7.4.3 CHAP user mpio Authentication failed by Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 16:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m having the same issue, unfortunately, your fix did not work. The server is Win2008 R2. MPIO will work, but only from one NIC at a time, the other generates the error.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m having the same issue, unfortunately, your fix did not work. The server is Win2008 R2. MPIO will work, but only from one NIC at a time, the other generates the error.</p>
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		<title>Comment on nog 1 nachtje slapen by Slapen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slapen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 22:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>En nu is ze alweer 3 :) 
Gaat snel de tijd he!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>En nu is ze alweer 3 <img src='http://www.martius.nl/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Gaat snel de tijd he!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Broodje gesmolten kaas by Sander</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 23:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>erg gaaf, zo weinig licht en toch mooi en makkelijk kunnen fotograferen. Ik ben benieuwd naar de rest!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>erg gaaf, zo weinig licht en toch mooi en makkelijk kunnen fotograferen. Ik ben benieuwd naar de rest!</p>
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